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Seriously, I agree with @geerlingguy and I'll refuse to buy @internetofshit / #InternetOfShit devices.

There is no legitimate reason a #Dishwasher needs #Internet access or an #App.

  • You know what my #WashingMachine needs to start (or finish) at a certain time? Me knowing how many hours it'll be from now on till it has to start (and some 2nd grade math to add the time till the program finishes)... IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SHITTY CLOCK INSIDE!!!

Seriously, I'm just mad at this #Enshittification!

Call me weird but I'll only get an #EV if I can charge it as fast as I can gas up my Corsa D 1.0 3-door and pay for it in cash (or #Monero if I can get Monero for cash w/o #KYC!) and not have all the "#eCall" #tracking bs in it!

#enshittification#cars#rich

@kkarhan Keep firing that atmospheric weapon.of mass destruction every time you move...

Compromise on charging time. You can take breaks. That part is fine.

Don't compromise on the surveillance.

@KarlHeinzHasliP if you can find me an EV that is actually affordable and useable and not a privacy nightmare, I'll gladly switch.

  • Meanwhile all those #Swasticars need to outlive my used one by at least 200.000km to break even on total CO².

If I can take breaks, I take #PublicTransport. It's just not an option and on some jobs I would've not been hired without a reliable car.

  • Plus not everyone is able or willing to dish out 5+ digits for a #Wallbox at their rented parking spot when it's not even clear that would be legal as per fire safety code at all, given the landlord doesn't even allow people to refuel cars down there and #BatteryFires are a whole new level of shit!
Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)@FlanFlinger@mastodon.social no. Unless you can find me a car that seats me comfortably, costs < €4k (used or new) to buy and < € 100 in tax per year in Germany. - Not to mention I rarely exceed 1000km a month, often barely go over 500km and EVs are a pain in the ass to repair or service. And with car I mean EC Vehicle Class M1. - A Piaggio Ape 50 or anything that isn't highway legal or gets honked by trucks for being slow isn't gonna cut it and I do need at least 2+2 seating and about 125l of cargo volume on top.

@kkarhan
Unfortunately, all new cars (regardless of how they are powered) are a privacy nightmare.

Maybe micro cars are an option for you. They aren't connected to the internet usually.

But if you have a car that works for you, why not keep it?
@KarlHeinzHasliP

@denki @KarlHeinzHasliP I will keep it simply because I can't really afford a new one and because it's already there and works fine!

  • If it was broken beyond repairability & being able to get it through tech inspection, that story would be different, but yeah...

As for smaller vehicles I do propose that for the (hopefully fewer and fewer) edge-cases where #PublicTransport just won't cut it, that we go #smol as in #PersonalLightVehicle and thus more #efficient!

Personal Light Vehicle - Specification. Contribute to KBtechnologies/PLV development by creating an account on GitHub.
GitHubGitHub - KBtechnologies/PLV: Personal Light Vehicle - SpecificationPersonal Light Vehicle - Specification. Contribute to KBtechnologies/PLV development by creating an account on GitHub.

@kkarhan @denki Got triggered by the part about needing to refuel super fast. That part of the original post is BS, happy with all the rest of your thinking.

Me, I love my ebike, able bodied as I am, that is all I really need. Once tried the citroen space tourer as a utility vehicle, if I actually needed one that would be decent, the new Kia utility vehicle also seems to cut it (not in terms of privacy though - probably would have to just cut out the internet connection for that)..

I've seen a bunch of the earlier version of this thing too - really like the concept. twike.com

TWIKE · TWIKE: Mobility turnaround on three wheels - TWIKEThe energy turnaround “Made by TWIKE” has three wheels, space for two people plus luggage and weighs less than 600 kg.
Tobias Denkinger

@KarlHeinzHasliP
The Twike is a very interesting design. The pedals are not very useful though: If you pedal like a professional (180W) for an hour you only get 2,5km of range.
@kkarhan

@denki @kkarhan According to their website, it gets you 10-20% of the energy: Wieviel Muskelkraft der Fahrer einsetzt, bleibt ihm überlassen. Ein durchschnittlich trainierter Fahrer kann durch das Pedalieren eine Leistung von 100 bis 200 W einbringen. Das entspricht bei einer Geschwindigkeit von 50 km/h etwa 10 bis 20 % des Gesamtenergiebedarfs. Der Pedalantrieb ist dazu gedacht, den Motor zu unterstützen, jedoch nicht als alleinige Antriebsquelle des TWIKE.

@KarlHeinzHasliP @denki The main idea of the pedals is also to overcome initial inertia to get started.

@KarlHeinzHasliP
Even if we assume 200W (about double of what an averagely cyclist can do continuously), we only get 0.4 kWh/100km at 50km/h, so about 6% of their claimed 7.2kWh/h. Their claims seem to be inconsistent.
@kkarhan

@denki @kkarhan I think you're looking at Twike 5 while I was quoting Twike 3 numbers. Twike 3 is the one that a guy in my neighbourhood is driving. That one goes at 4-7 kWh/100km.

@KarlHeinzHasliP
Yes, I was talking about the Twike 5. For the Twike 3 it would indeed be 10% of the 4kWh/100km (but not 20%) for their 200W assumption. I would not want to do 200W in a closed cabin though.
@kkarhan