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#Germany 🇩🇪 has already made it known that it believes the #EU 🇪🇺 -backed #IRIS2 mega-constellation of super-secure satellites is too expensive 💰. A report in German newspaper #Handelsblatt suggests that the German army (#Bundeswehr) is backing an alternate orbiting satellite system. At the moment it is unclear whether Italy will ‘go it alone’ and sidestep #IRIS2 advanced-television.com/2025/0

www.advanced-television.comItaly joins Germany in IRIS2 alternate thoughtsGermany has already made it known that it believes the EU-backed IRIS2 mega-constellation of super-secure satellites is too expensive. Now it seems that Italy i
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This article was updated on 16 April to remove mention of the constellation being a national alternative to #IRIS2. While that may still be the case, the evidence 🕵️ currently available suggests otherwise. europeanspaceflight.com/italy-

Here's the original title : #Italy 🇮🇹 moves ahead with study for national IRIS2 alternative europeanspaceflight.com/catego

European Spaceflight · Italy Moves Ahead With Study for 100-Satellite ConstellationItaly is moving ahead with Phase 2 of a feasibility study exploring the development of a 100-satellite constellation.

Govsatcom, Eutelsat, Iris2: Ukraine seeks European alternatives to Starlink.

The American Starlink satellite network is currently essential to the Ukrainian military forces on the ground. The threat to cut off Kyiv's access to the Starlink satellite network could have far-reaching consequences for the war.

To avoid this, Ukrainian authorities are seeking alternatives from the EU.

mediafaro.org/article/20250422

Euronews · Govsatcom, Eutelsat, Iris2: Ukraine seeks European alternatives to Starlink.Von Gregoire Lory

#Norway to be ‘fully integrated’ member of #EU’s #securecommunications, industry minister says: Euractiv sat down with Norwegian Minister #CecilieMyrseth, responsible for space policy, to discuss Oslo joining the #EU’s pooled satellite capacity programme #Govsatcom and #IRIS2. euractiv.com/section/tech/inte

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#Europe already is working on their own system, called #IRIS2. Application focus apparently already broadened from government/corporate use to B2C.

defence-industry-space.ec.euro

While French #Eutelsat is building a consumer system with Airbus. They recently announced world’s first 5G non-terrestrial network connection (straight to phone, no terminal required), leveraging #OneWeb LEO satellites.

mediatek.com/press-room/eutels

Defence Industry and Space
Defence Industry and SpaceIRIS² | Secure ConnectivityIRIS² | Secure Connectivity

»Konkurrenz für Musks #Starlink - #Eutelsat testet #5G per #Satellit«

Na endlich. Hoffen wir, dass es reicht, um Musk zumindest aus der #EU Telko-Infrastruktur heraus zu halten.

msn.com/de-de/technik/technolo

»[Dies] ist Teil des knapp elf Milliarden Euro schweren Iris²-Investitionsprogramms. In dessen Rahmen sollen knapp 300 Trabanten in niedrige oder mittlere Umlaufbahnen geschossen werden.«

n-tv.de/incoming/Konkurrenz-fu

www.msn.comMSN
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« #Italian gov’s possible adoption of #Starlink satellite comms system would b politicl & economic error, domestic & #EU legislators have warned, as gov doubled down on decision & #Musk revelled in the debate

If deal→signed, #Italy→1st EU country 2 formally engage w/ Musk’s #SpaceX. But would raise ?? abt its alignment w/ #European strategic priorities, including setup of EU’s #IRIS2 constellation, while potentially costing Italy jobs, sovereignty, & strategic autonomy»

euractiv.com/section/politics/

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#IRIS2: Bodenstation für EU-Satelliten-Internet kommt nach Deutschland.

Die #EU Kommission hat beschlossen, einen wichtigen Netzwerkknoten für satellitengestützte Kommunikationsdienste in #Köln anzusiedeln.

"Airbus Defence and Space hat von Eutelsat einen Auftrag zum Bau der Erweiterung seiner OneWeb-Konstellation in niedriger Erdumlaufbahn (LEO)
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Im Rahmen des zwischen den beiden Unternehmen unterzeichneten Vertrags wird Airbus die erste Serie der Erweiterung mit insgesamt 100 Satelliten bauen mit einer Lieferung voraussichtlich ab Ende 2026, ..."

airbus.com/sites/g/files/jlcbt

17.12.2024

#5G#Airbus#Eutelsat
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Out of the other media coverage Politico got it almost right, because they clearly explain that #IRIS2 is not a competitor to #Starlink.

Their title (“Relax Elon — the EU isn’t an immediate threat to Starlink”) is still a bit manipulative, because it kind of ignores the fact that Elon does indeed run a project - the SpaceX #Starshield - for which IRIS2 is a direct competitor. But later on in the article they do explain it.

But here’s a paragraph that I find much more valuable because I myself also used this analogy as well:

However, the bloc’s earlier space programs — such as GPS-alternative Galileo and Earth observation system Copernicus — also attracted similar criticism, but are now considered world-beating space infrastructure.

My own point was that media has a tendency to moan about everything without really digging into the essence of the problem. When Galileo was rolled out, the media moaned “why own GNSS when there’s free GPS”. Now when Russia is jamming GPS in EU, everyone is again moaning “why EU isn’t doing anything with it”. Well, they actually do and both Galileo and IRIS2 are direct responses to these challenges.

https://www.politico.eu/article/relax-elon-musk-eu-threat-starlink-iris2-broadband-internet/

POLITICO · Relax Elon — the EU isn’t an immediate threat to StarlinkVon Joshua Posaner