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noahso far I've been using <a href="https://tilde.zone/tags/dillo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#dillo</a> and <a href="https://tilde.zone/tags/lynx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#lynx</a> as my browsers (sometimes <a href="https://tilde.zone/tags/netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#netsurf</a>), <a href="https://tilde.zone/tags/vi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#vi</a> and mousepad as my text editors, and just the raspbian default apps for reading and stuff like that. <a href="https://tilde.zone/tags/uxn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#uxn</a> works great on it too, this morning I wrote a screen size patch for Left. Next up is probably gonna be getting an <a href="https://tilde.zone/tags/nes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#nes</a> emulator up

Klaus Zimmermann :unverified:<a href="https://chaos.social/@kfh" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kfh</a> all the more reason to try out a different, less featureful browser like <a href="https://c.im/tags/Netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Netsurf</a> or <a href="https://c.im/tags/Dillo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Dillo</a> for plain web surfing...

Fossery Tech :debian: :gnome:I started to develop a minimal version of FosseryWeb 1-2 weeks ago, with the aim of Dillo and NetSurf compatibility, I just "finished" the site (in the sense that all articles and cheatsheets are available there).In the beginning, it was a bit challenging to find ways to implement the planned design in a way that it isn't broken in the above mentioned browsers, but actually it was a fun challenge, it was a bit like a "don't use modern CSS features" challenge lol. I had to make some changes to the originally planned design to make it work, but hope you like it.Besides the compatibility thing, I also made the site as lightweight as possible, by including only the necessary CSS styles for each page (mostly), and only include images where it's necessary (e.g. in a few cheatsheets).<a href="https://fosseryweb-min.codeberg.page/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://fosseryweb-min.codeberg.page/</a>If you noticed a bug or have any recommendation, feel free to drop a comment.I'm aware of some article/cheatsheet download issues mentioned on the Known issues section of the About page (<a href="https://fosseryweb-min.codeberg.page/about.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://fosseryweb-min.codeberg.page/about.html</a>), but I couldn't find a solution for those yet (some of those are browser-related, so I can't really do anything about them I guess). I could solve the Dillo issue by including Markdown files in zip, but even then, unzipping it is one extra step, so it wouldn't be any better than right clicking on the link imo.<a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/FosseryWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FosseryWeb</a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/FosseryWebMin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FosseryWebMin</a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/MinimalWebsite" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MinimalWebsite</a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/Website" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Website</a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/WebDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebDev</a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/Dillo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Dillo</a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/NetSurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetSurf</a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/FosseryTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FosseryTech</a>

Klaus Zimmermann :unverified:Impressive. A machine from 1999 running modern-day Linux with <a href="https://c.im/tags/Antix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Antix</a>......FROM A LIVE CD!<a href="https://reddit.com/comments/1kgoqki" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://reddit.com/comments/1kgoqki</a>No idea how usable it is, but it even loaded up a browsing session thanks to the amazing <a href="https://c.im/tags/NetSurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetSurf</a>.<a href="https://c.im/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#retrocomputing</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/oldcomputers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#oldcomputers</a>

nickbeardedBig news in the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BashCore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BashCore</a> project: introducing <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BashCoreLX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BashCoreLX</a> — the same minimal, powerful BashCore, now with a lightweight <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LXDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LXDE</a> graphical interface! Tested on my old machine: just 300MB RAM on boot. Hoping to release a public ISO soon using live-build!It’ll include all BashCore tools + <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Wireshark" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wireshark</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OWASPZAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OWASPZAP</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BurpSuite" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BurpSuite</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FernWiFiCracker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FernWiFiCracker</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FirefoxESR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxESR</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Netsurf</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Pentesting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pentesting</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CyberSecurity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CyberSecurity</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LightweightLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LightweightLinux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#InfoSec</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LiveISO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LiveISO</a>

Fossery Tech :debian: :gnome:New minimal FosseryWeb (post 2/2)

Klaus Zimmermann (MOVED)The Amazing <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/NetSurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetSurf</a> Browser, and how to install its latest version on Debian:<a href="https://diode.zone/w/pR3fcRjYaBYZmziR2iFzcU" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://diode.zone/w/pR3fcRjYaBYZmziR2iFzcU</a>"Give me a slimmed-down Firefox that can do a little JS, runs under 500MB RAM and has none of that Mozilla BS on it." "You got it, fam."Video number 2 in the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/minimalistbrowsers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#minimalistbrowsers</a> series.<a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freesoftware</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/peertube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#peertube</a>

AbbeyFunny thing this morning - because I AM curious...So apparently, <a href="https://null.qocc.space/tags/python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#python</a> pypi.org doesn't work in <a href="https://null.qocc.space/tags/netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#netsurf</a> nor <a href="https://null.qocc.space/tags/lynx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#lynx</a> - it just sends "enable <a href="https://null.qocc.space/tags/javascript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#javascript</a> "message. Which BTW lynx displays, but netsurf does not. But get this, <a href="https://null.qocc.space/tags/mothra" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mothra</a> and <a href="https://null.qocc.space/tags/abaco" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#abaco</a> actually do render js-less pypi. What? Rt?Haven't yet tried messing with user agents. Will explore further later, as it's round 0630 CET & I gotta get to work to build an Aida set at the theatre that pays for my hobbies. And haven't had coffee yet.

niu tech<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@dillo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dillo</a> What do you think of adding an optional <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/QuickJS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuickJS</a> engine like <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Netsurf</a>?

Nicolas DandrimontÇa parle de <a href="https://mastodon.opportunis.me/tags/NetSurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetSurf</a> sur <a href="https://mastodon.opportunis.me/tags/Haiku" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Haiku</a> à la MiniDebConf Cambridge. Encore un coup de <a href="https://m.g3l.org/@mmu_man" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mmu_man</a> ça !

Allanon 🇮🇹 :amiga:Is this normal?... I'm going to try <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/NetSurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetSurf</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/Falkon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Falkon</a> I'm pretty tired of these behemoth browsers...<a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#browser</a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/manjaro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#manjaro</a> ---

David Llewellyn-JonesWorking on a presentation for work has given me an opportunity to read up about the history of the Web Browser.Turns out to be not such a simple thing to unravel. Here's my attempt!<a href="https://www.flypig.co.uk/gecko?&list_id=1202&list=gecko" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.flypig.co.uk/gecko?&list_id=1202&list=gecko</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Web" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Web</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mosaic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mosaic</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/InternetExplorer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#InternetExplorer</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Edge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Edge</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Netscape" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Netscape</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Gecko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Gecko</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Safari" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Safari</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Chrome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Chrome</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Chromium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Chromium</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Opera" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Opera</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Ladybird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ladybird</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Netsurf</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SailfishOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SailfishOS</a>

R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:<a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@pkw" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@pkw</a> <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/@sotolf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@sotolf</a>> - <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/links2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#links2</a> > - <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/dillo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#dillo</a> > - <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#netsurf</a> > - <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/w3m" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#w3m</a> > - <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/lynx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#lynx</a>I cannot overstate my approval. This list is FIRE. I actually have images disabled in w3m becuase the performance is kinda poor, but use xlinks a lot when I actually want images.Honorable mention: Surf, when you really, really want a modern browser with a minimum of fluff. Also, elinks seems to be in active development again, so it definitely deserves a place on the list. :)cc: <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/@mirabilos" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mirabilos</a>, the lynx virtuoso

niu tech<a href="https://layer8.space/@tux0r" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tux0r</a> Do you have JS enabled in <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/NetSurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetSurf</a>? It uses <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Duktape" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Duktape</a> engine, so it's experimental. Almost all web apps need JS to run, in contrast to web pages.

tux0r :openbsd:Unpopular opinion:If your "web application" does not work in <a href="https://layer8.space/tags/Netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Netsurf</a> on a <a href="https://layer8.space/tags/Plan9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Plan9</a> machine, your "web application" is not worth my time.

niu tech<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@kzimmermann" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kzimmermann</a> Have you tried comparing RAM consumption and HTML5 support with <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Netsurf</a> or <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/PaleMoon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PaleMoon</a> browser with JS turned off?

Adële 🐘<a href="https://pl.cleac.me/users/alex" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@alex</a> I like to use simple browser (that work on these old machine) like <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@dillo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dillo</a> or <a href="https://phpc.social/tags/netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#netsurf</a> The rapidity of pages loading is so awesome !

Adële 🐘<a href="https://friendica.myportal.social/profile/freezr" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@freezr</a> You should try to use <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@dillo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dillo</a> or <a href="https://phpc.social/tags/netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#netsurf</a> on such a device. They don't load or try to do things your device can't

JunoAfter a search in the NetBSD packages for lightweight web browsers, the winners are: vimb, dillo, luakit and netsurf. Dillo's new release 3.1.0 still hasn't landed, so no HTTPS there. Luakit is very neat, extremely lightweight, minimal, has vim-like bindings and would be perfect if it weren't for the constant white flashing between each pageload when using a custom, darker CSS. NetSurf is also quite neat, with tab support for heavier sessions. The winner for me is vimb, which although leaving tabs to the window manager, has vim-like bindings, is pretty minimal and does not cause flashing when switching between pages on a custom darker CSS setting.Honor mention to Arctic Fox, a Pale Moon clone that hits peak nostalgia with the pre-omnibar Firefox look. No theming, not as lightweight, but going strong at 29.5k commits since 2018.<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/netbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#netbsd</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bsd</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/vimb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#vimb</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/dillo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#dillo</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/luakit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#luakit</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/netsurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#netsurf</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/arcticfox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#arcticfox</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#firefox</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/browsers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#browsers</a>

R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@someodd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@someodd</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@dillo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dillo</a>Dillo is nice! Also, <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/NetSurf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetSurf</a> and <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Links" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Links</a>.*mini-plug*: <a href="https://rldane.space/web-10-is-unironically-going-great.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://rldane.space/web-10-is-unironically-going-great.html</a>

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