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Tom :damnified:<p>Habe heute mal wieder RustDesk ausprobiert und es lief erstklassig! </p><p>Eigentlich nur, weil Teamviewer mich nicht mehr reinlässt (habe es wohl übertrieben damit) und ich nach einer Alternative gesucht habe. </p><p>Aber habe gar keine Lust mehr, was anderes zu verwenden. RustDesk ist wirklich klasse!</p><p><a href="https://rustdesk.com" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">rustdesk.com</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/rustDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>rustDesk</span></a> <a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/rust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>rust</span></a> <a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/rustlang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>rustlang</span></a> <a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/teamviewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>teamviewer</span></a></p>
Merlin Schumacher<p>I use <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TeamViewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamViewer</span></a> to do remote support on my mother's phone and tablet about once every two months. The devices are named "Mom's Phone" and "Mom's Tablet". Nevertheless about every six months they believe I'm using their service commercially. It's so fucking annoying. </p><p>Before everybody recommends RustDesk: I tried that, but the app is way too clunky and technical for an average end user. And the way you secure your server gave me an uneasy feeling. Feels like creating an unsecured service.</p>
Marcel SIneM(S)US<p><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Teamviewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Teamviewer</span></a>: Angreifer können ihre Rechte im System ausweiten | Security <a href="https://www.heise.de/news/Teamviewer-Angreifer-koennen-ihre-Rechte-im-System-ausweiten-10460853.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">heise.de/news/Teamviewer-Angre</span><span class="invisible">ifer-koennen-ihre-Rechte-im-System-ausweiten-10460853.html</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Patchday" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Patchday</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mrmasterkeyboard</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@0xF21D" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>0xF21D</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@cesarpose" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cesarpose</span></a></span> for individiuals who do stuff on the side and who definitely don't make ends meet with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a> I don't assume malice or incompetence unless proven otherwise.</p><ul><li>If this were like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TeamViewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamViewer</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AnyDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AnyDesk</span></a> who charge triple digits per seat and year I'd not accept that tho!</li></ul><p>Granted <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Dayon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Dayon</span></a> is AFAICT the only <a href="https://alternativeto.net/software/teamviewer/?feature=remote-desktop-access&amp;license=free&amp;p=3&amp;platform=linux" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">competitive offering</a> if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MeshCentral" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MeshCentral</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RustDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RustDesk</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Remotely" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Remotely</span></a> are too overkill and that works on the convenient <em>"Reverse-Server"</em> model where one needs to only configure the network on the Assistant end, not on the end of the user seeking help.</p><ul><li>Which is espechally desired for systems that one hasn't onboarded or ain't intended to get onboarded as a matter of principle (i.e. individual clients' desktops)...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mitexleo.one/@ml" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ml</span></a></span> I've heard of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RustDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RustDesk</span></a>, but lets just say the whole <em>"it's not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SaaS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SaaS</span></a>!"</em> when it clearly is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/subscription" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>subscription</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/licensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>licensing</span></a> scheme is kinda off-putting to me...<br><a href="https://rustdesk.com/pricing/?lang=en" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">rustdesk.com/pricing/?lang=en</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><ul><li>I mean, it is <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a>"</em> as in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SUSE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SUSE</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OracleLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OracleLinux</span></a> ( &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedHad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RedHad</span></a> used to be)...</li></ul><p>That doesn't mean they are bad - far from it.</p><ul><li>Tho being better than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TeamViewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamViewer</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AnyDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AnyDesk</span></a> isn't <em>that hard</em>...</li></ul><p>I just use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Dayon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Dayon</span></a> because it's <a href="https://retgal.github.io/Dayon/quickstart.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">very easy to walkthrough</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a> when it comes to getting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RemoteSupport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RemoteSupport</span></a> up and running with them.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Seriously, if I was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LinusSebastian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LinusSebastian</span></a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LinusTechTips" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LinusTechTips</span></a> I'd literally choose to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/donate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>donate</span></a> the cost of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TeamViewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamViewer</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/subscription" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>subscription</span></a> to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RemoteDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RemoteDesktop</span></a> projects like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Dayon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Dayon</span></a> instead <em>and</em> sue TeamViewer into <em>upholding their contract</em> or a <em>full refund with interest as if it was a loan</em> because clearly they chose violate that contract <em>on their own terms and initiative!</em></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT1t1JlZugM&amp;t=140" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=RT1t1JlZug</span><span class="invisible">M&amp;t=140</span></a></p><p>And yes, <em>Dayon!</em> is awesome and I can fully recommend this as an alternative to TeamViewer, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AnyDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AnyDesk</span></a>, etc. </p><p><a href="https://retgal.github.io/Dayon/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">retgal.github.io/Dayon/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><ul><li>For any system that needs <em>Remote Access</em> as <em>unattended</em> I'd recommend to setup a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VPN</span></a> or at least a Reverse-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSH" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSH</span></a> connection anyway so one can launch something like Dayon! by just sending a single command and have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RemoteDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RemoteDesktop</span></a> access on-demand.</li></ul><p>So yeah, TeamViewer literally shot themselves in the foot here by deciding to shaft paying customers who were able and willing to pay the absurd prices you asked for for a one-time license.</p><ul><li>Also whilst TeamViewer does OFC maintain some infrastructure, most what they do is basically run a <em>"rendrevous"-Server</em> to allow two endpoints behind NATs to connect to each other and exchange details to make UPnP-style hole-punching work. </li></ul><p>That's traffic in the single-digit megabytes per year and client, as there's not much between as clients pinging their server and basically boing some simple handshakes.</p><ul><li>And as <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT1t1JlZugM&amp;t=572" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Linus said</a> it's not his problem if they gotta have to keep systems up and running in perpetuity. They offered that deal and now they have to suffer through it! By paying the obligations are on to TeamViewer to make it work and continue to make it work!</li></ul><p>Also if I'm on a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LAN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LAN</span></a> why would I want to use TeamViewer and not any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VNC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VNC</span></a> (or god forbid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RDP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RDP</span></a>) server? THE WHOLE POINT OF USING TeamViewer, AnyDesk, etc. IS TO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NATs, FIREWALLS AND IP-ADDRESSES AND JUST GET CONNECTED FFS!!!</p><ul><li>Personally I use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Remmina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Remmina</span></a> and Dayon, but that's because Remmina is comfortable even for SSH and can do that as well as RDP &amp; VNC and Dayon is just the simple option I can walktrough people that need <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechSupport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechSupport</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/remote" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>remote</span></a>|ly for a quick hands-on... </li></ul><p>Definitely my recommendation because it also allows for any use-cases and doesn't nag one to <em>"buy a license!"</em></p><ul><li>So please someone please let <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linus</span></a> know about Dayon so he can do a <em>"TeamViewer alternatives"</em> video...</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LTT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LTT</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WanShow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WanShow</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WANshow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WANshow</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Greedflation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Greedflation</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Licensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Licensing</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ownership" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ownership</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Piracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Piracy</span></a></p>
Fabián Rodríguez 🛡💾 🇨🇴 🌴<p>I've started gradually replacing <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Anydesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Anydesk</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Teamviewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Teamviewer</span></a> on all desktops I provide support for with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/RustDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RustDesk</span></a>. </p><p><a href="https://rustdesk.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">rustdesk.com/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Sometimes I am deciding, sometimes the owner does, depending on my role with them! Slow but steady path to software freedom and privacy.</p><p>This is a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Chromebook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Chromebook</span></a> showing <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/RustDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RustDesk</span></a> after replacing <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ChromeOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ChromeOS</span></a> with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Debian</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mate</span></a> - in Spanish 😎</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GAFAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GAFAM</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GoLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GoLinux</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/photos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>photos</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EO10Challenges" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EO10Challenges</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LGDL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LGDL</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/degoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>degoogle</span></a></p>
TOV<p>RustDesk is an open-source, full-featured remote control software designed for self-hosting and security, offering a user-friendly alternative to commercial remote desktop solutions like TeamViewer or AnyDesk. It allows users to access and control other computers remotely, even behind firewalls or NATs, without needing additional tools like VPNs or port forwarding. </p><p><a href="https://rustdesk.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">rustdesk.com/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Rust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Rust</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/rustdesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>rustdesk</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/TeamViewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamViewer</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/AnyDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AnyDesk</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/VPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VPN</span></a></p>
Richie Rich<p>Boah Leute, ich bekomme echt den Hass: Warum in Dreiteufelsnamen muss denn eine Support-Software, die früher ordnungsgemäß funktionierte und einfach für den Supporter zum Anleiten war auf einmal so komplex werden? <br>Ich habe gerade versucht, meinem Dad <a href="https://hessen.social/tags/Support" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Support</span></a> über <a href="https://hessen.social/tags/Teamviewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Teamviewer</span></a> zu geben. Was früher über Eingabe einer Suchmaschine, einfachem Download und Eingabe einer Nummer möglich war, ist jetzt zu einem Hochkomplexen unterfangen geworden! Da könnte ich platzen. Mein Vater ist jetzt /1</p>
KickDownCH<p>"Wir verwenden <a href="https://swiss.social/tags/Fastviewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fastviewer</span></a> weil <a href="https://swiss.social/tags/Teamviewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Teamviewer</span></a> nicht sicher genug ist"<br>-&gt; 20 Minuten bis überhaupt eine Sitzung zu stande kommt, weitere 10 Minuten für um heraus zu finden wie die Bildschirm und Steuerungsfreigabe funktioniert.<br>Dann später nochmal 10 Minuten weil ich die Services geöffnet habe, die Software mich dann aussperrte weil ich zu wenig Berechtigungen hatte.</p>
Droppie [infosec] 🐨:archlinux: :kde: :firefox_nightly: :thunderbird: :vegan:​<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@jerry" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jerry</span></a></span> Given you're an infosec specialist &amp; i'm not, i fear my reply will be far too low-tech &amp; off-topic for your intentions in this poll. So, fwiw...</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AnyDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AnyDesk</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RustDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RustDesk</span></a> have worked well for me for years when i connect my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ArchLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ArchLinux</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KDE</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a> pc to my dad's win10 pc to do remote support</li><li>AD &amp; RD also work well connecting my Arch pc to my other Linux pc's IF i run their penguins in Xorg... but are incompatible with Wayland remote targets [this is now a major problem for me]</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TeamViewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamViewer</span></a> does support Wayland Hosts &amp; Remotes, but i HATE using it &amp; wish i could purge it!</li><li>I would love to use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> options like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Remmina" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Remmina</span></a>, or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Krfb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Krfb</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KRDC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KRDC</span></a>, but am too stupid to understand how to tell them the applicable network addresses, so i've never managed to get them working</li></ul>
Us©hi in Aachen<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.de/@holger" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>holger</span></a></span> Danke für dieses Memo, <a href="https://nrw.social/tags/teamviewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>teamviewer</span></a> wollte ich schon länger bei ihr einrichten, immer wieder vergessen.</p>
jmizv<p>Keine Ahnung, ob es diese Karte schon zu einer Erwähnung bei Mastodon geschafft hat, aber hier kommt sie: </p><p>Eine Karte der Europäischen Tech Szene</p><p>Start-Ups, Scale-Ups und etablierte Firmen.</p><p>Ich hätte nicht gedacht, dass <a href="https://bonn.social/tags/Personio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Personio</span></a> aus <a href="https://bonn.social/tags/M%C3%BCnchen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>München</span></a> kommen. <a href="https://bonn.social/tags/Teamviewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Teamviewer</span></a> aus <a href="https://bonn.social/tags/g%C3%B6ppingen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>göppingen</span></a>, klar!</p><p><a href="https://www.pampam.city/p/MPjGbJa08mbotKuTpUnf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">pampam.city/p/MPjGbJa08mbotKuT</span><span class="invisible">pUnf</span></a></p>
Philippe :unverified:<p>Anyone ever succeeded in setting up TeamViewer Host “unattended”, assigning it to a paid account on a Linux device (Ubuntu Desktop)? <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/teamviewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>teamviewer</span></a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ubuntu</span></a></p>
Yann Büchau :nixos:<p>I just tried <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/rustDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>rustDesk</span></a> (because <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/TeamViewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamViewer</span></a> keeps yeeting you out after minutes) and wow do I have to say it's awesome!</p><p>- <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> (though apparently with some proprietary dependencies? 🤔)<br>- works over mobile connection (LTE router), uses little data<br>- keyboard shortcuts just work (CTRL+C never worked for me in Teamviewer)<br>- clipboard sharing just works<br>- no ridiculous time limitation</p><p>🚀</p>
Erik van Straten<p>Avast antivirus blijkt Anydesk app</p><p>Bankhelpdeskfraudeurs (die telefoonnummers van banken kunnen spoofen) vertellen vaak aan slachtoffers dat er geld van hun rekening wordt gestolen, en dat zij snel im actie moeten komen om de schade te beperken.</p><p>Dit leidt bij veel mensen tot paniek waardoor zij niet helder meer kunnen denken. Een ala hulpvaardig overkomend iemand aan de telefoon is dan zeer welkom; zo iemand wordt al snel vertrouwd, vooral als de beller allerlei informatie over het slachtoffer heeft dat alleen de bank zou kunnen weten.</p><p>De beller zegt dat er gestolen wordt omdat er een computervirus op de PC of smartphone van het slachtoffer staat. Om nieuwe diefstal te voorkómen is haast geboden en moet een virusscanner van een door de beller opgegeven website worden gedownload en geïnstalleerd. Eén van de vele URLs die criminelen daarvoor opgeven luidt:</p><p> https:⧸⧸avastpdq·com</p><p>Die website wordt momenteel (met nog veel meer andere nepwebsites) gehost op een server in Rusland - met het IP-adres dat te zien is in de volgende URL: <a href="https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/193.143.1.14/relations" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/</span><span class="invisible">193.143.1.14/relations</span></a> (VirusTotal is een dochter van Google waarmee je bestanden en websites door ca. 94 verschillende virusscanners kunt laten analyseren). Scanresultaten van genoemde *website* ziet u in <a href="https://www.virustotal.com/gui/domain/avastpdq.com/details" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">virustotal.com/gui/domain/avas</span><span class="invisible">tpdq.com/details</span></a>.</p><p>Toen ik die criminele website zojuist (met Chrome op mijn Android smartphone) opende, kon ik kiezen voor het downloaden van "Avast antivirus" voor Android of voor iOS (als ik voor die laatste kies, wordt mijn browser doorgestuurd naar <a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/anydesk/id1176131273" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">apps.apple.com/us/app/anydesk/</span><span class="invisible">id1176131273</span></a>).</p><p>Ik heb de *Android* versie van "Avast antivirus" gedownload: die app blijkt "anydesk.apk" te heten (zie onderstaande screenshots).</p><p>Nb. het gaat om een *echte* (ongewijzigde) versie van Anydesk.</p><p>Maar weinig Nederlanders weten dat Anydesk geen virusscanner is, maar een RAT (Remote Access Tool)</p><p>En een slimme. Want, voor anderen met een internetaansluiting is het meestal onmogelijk om een netwerkverbinding met uw PC of smartphone te maken; uw modem (en mogelijk ook nog een firewall) blokkeert namelijk inkomende verbindingen (de andere kant op, van uw PC of smartphone naar een server op internet, kan matuurlijk wel).</p><p>RAT's als AnyDesk en Teamviewer werken daar omheen: zowel de app die door u gestart wordt, als de app van een cybercrimineel, maken verbinding met een centrale server - waardoor de cybercrimineel uw PC, smartphone of tablet via die server kan "overnemen". Die cybercrimineel ziet dan *uw* scherm. En wat die hufter invoert, gaat naar uw device.</p><p>Ik heb het niet getest, maar als een slachtoffer de app start, toont deze vermoedelijk een getal o.i.d. dat het slachtoffer via de telefoon aan de oplichter moet doorgeven - die daarmee de verbinding met uw device tot stand kan brengen - en bijv. uw app voor internetbankieren starten (wellicht kan dat zonder dat u dat ziet).</p><p>Druk in onderstaande plaatjes op "Alt" voor meer info.</p><p>Aanvulling 01:02: zie ook <a href="https://www.security.nl/posting/875910" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">security.nl/posting/875910</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> (en de posting bovenaan die pagina, naast de vele comments).</p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Phishing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Phishing</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Spoofing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Spoofing</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AitM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AitM</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BankHelpdeskFraude" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BankHelpdeskFraude</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Oplichting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Oplichting</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/NepWebsites" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NepWebsites</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OnlineOplichting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnlineOplichting</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Avast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Avast</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Antivirus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Antivirus</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Anydesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Anydesk</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/RAT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RAT</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/TeamViewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamViewer</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DVCerts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DVCerts</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/NiemandDoetErIetsTegen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NiemandDoetErIetsTegen</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Cybercrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cybercrime</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CyberCriminelen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CyberCriminelen</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Rusland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Rusland</span></a></p>
Marcus Jaschen<p>Wochenrückblick, Ausgabe 78 (2025-06)</p><p>Themen:</p><p>🗺️ Spaß mit dem Katasteramt und etwas Herumnerden mit den Vermessern</p><p>🏞️ Panorama-Stitcher: die Suche geht weiter</p><p>💻 Die große TeamViewer Enshittification</p><p>🦥 GoToSocial</p><p>📖 WikiTok</p><p>📚 ISBN Visualization</p><p>🐚 CLI-Tool der Woche: nightlight</p><p>🔊 Techno</p><p><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Wochenr%C3%BCckblick" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wochenrückblick</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Kataster" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Kataster</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Vermessung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Vermessung</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/GPS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GPS</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Panorama" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Panorama</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Lightroom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lightroom</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Hugin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Hugin</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/AffinityPhoto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AffinityPhoto</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Panovolo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Panovolo</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/TeamViewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamViewer</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/RustDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RustDesk</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/GoToSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GoToSocial</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/WikiTok" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WikiTok</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Wikipedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wikipedia</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/ISBN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ISBN</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/CLI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CLI</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Raycast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Raycast</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Techno" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Techno</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://www.marcusjaschen.de/blog/2025/2025-06/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">marcusjaschen.de/blog/2025/202</span><span class="invisible">5-06/</span></a></p>
Marcus Jaschen<p>Wann ist denn <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/TeamViewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamViewer</span></a> eigentlich auf die Gegenfahrbahn abgebogen?</p><p>Fünf Minuten Zeitlimit pro Session in der kostenlosen Personal-Version ist ja schon eher in der Kategorie „Mittelfinger direkt vor's Gesicht“ einzuordnen.</p>
nrmn<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@simsus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>simsus</span></a></span> Alternativ auch RustDesk mit Option, die Server selbst im eigenen Datacenter zu hosten:<br><a href="https://rustdesk.com/de/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">rustdesk.com/de/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> <br><a href="https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/RustDesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RustDesk</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Anydesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Anydesk</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Teamviewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Teamviewer</span></a></p>
Marcel SIneM(S)US<p>Fernsupport per Gratisprogramm (nein, nicht <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/TeamViewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamViewer</span></a>) - pctipp.ch <a href="https://www.pctipp.ch/praxis/betriebssysteme/fernsupport-gratisprogramm-teamviewer-2499109.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">pctipp.ch/praxis/betriebssyste</span><span class="invisible">me/fernsupport-gratisprogramm-teamviewer-2499109.html</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Anydesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Anydesk</span></a></p>