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Bytes Europe<p>Why the Greens must become an environmental force <a href="https://www.byteseu.com/1282455/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">byteseu.com/1282455/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/AlbaneseGovernment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AlbaneseGovernment</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/auspol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>auspol</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Australia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Australia</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/biodiversity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>biodiversity</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/BobBrownFoundation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BobBrownFoundation</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/ClimateChange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ClimateChange</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Conservation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Conservation</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/deforestation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deforestation</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/EcologicalCollapse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EcologicalCollapse</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/environment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>environment</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/EnvironmentalLegislation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EnvironmentalLegislation</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/ExtinctionCrisis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ExtinctionCrisis</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/GreatBarrierReef" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreatBarrierReef</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Greens" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Greens</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/koalas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>koalas</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/logging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>logging</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/NativeForests" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NativeForests</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/plantations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>plantations</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/RedbankPowerStation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RedbankPowerStation</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/SueArnold" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SueArnold</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/VerdantEarthTechnologies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VerdantEarthTechnologies</span></a></p>
randomTYPO3<p>✍️ Logging considerations during production</p><p>TYPO3 has several configuration options and tools to keep log files manageable, secure, and relevant. This guide covers practical strategies for controlling log volume, reducing noise, and monitoring critical events.</p><p>➡️ <a href="https://docs.typo3.org/m/typo3/reference-coreapi/13.4/en-us/Administration/Production/Logging/Index.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">docs.typo3.org/m/typo3/referen</span><span class="invisible">ce-coreapi/13.4/en-us/Administration/Production/Logging/Index.html</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/TYPO3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TYPO3</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/logging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>logging</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tiggi.es/@thygrrr" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thygrrr</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@PallasRiot" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>PallasRiot</span></a></span> <em>every provider WILL SNITCH</em> if provided with a duely issued warrant.</p><ul><li>Not even <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mullvadnet</span></a></span> will refuse to comply, because investigators will only <em>ask nice once, then they won't</em> and instead kick in doors, start pointing guns with funswitches at staff and rip out hardware for evidence collection!</li></ul><p>Granted <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mullvad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mullvad</span></a> at least goes out of their way to minimize having any data they could hand over in the first place, but still: They too have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LawfulInterception" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LawfulInterception</span></a> boxes in place to isolate clients' and log their traffic.</p><ul><li>I've yet to hear of a juristiction <em>with actual internet connectivity</em> that doesn't mandate that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a> in the form of appliances.</li></ul><p>And yes, I worked for an ISP in the past and had to deal with said <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/logging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>logging</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monitoring" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monitoring</span></a> infrastructure as in <em>keeping it up and running</em>...</p>
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So there's this #ai thing out here.
People who are on the bleeding edge and doing this in prod/at scale/at enterprises: how do you handle #otel #tracing and #logging of #llm calls?

There's only really semconv for traces as of now, and everyone in their playground is happy about seeing those huge prompts as attributes, but I think (and hear) that this won't work at most enterprises.

I can see that #GenAI Events[1] are the recommended way of handling messages/responses, which actually makes sense in terms of separating likely sensitive information from the more useful telemetry. I can imagine these to be generally more useful for security teams (auditing) than ops people.

I have a couple of questions from a practical point of view though:
- How should one separate these events from tracing data in terms of processing/ingestion?
- How should one still have the complete audit trail of what has happened (which agent called what other agent that get information via another tool and dumped some part of the source code as a response to the original question)?

I guess linking events to traces/spans would work, but depending on whether you have a single backend (SaaS vendor) or multiple this can get tricky from a UX point of view.

Boosts are welcomed!

[1]: opentelemetry.io/docs/specs/se

OpenTelemetrySemantic conventions for generative AI eventsStatus: Development GenAI instrumentations MAY capture user inputs sent to the model and responses received from it as events. Note: Events are in-development and not yet available in some languages. Check spec-compliance matrix to see the implementation status in corresponding language. Instrumentations MAY capture inputs and outputs if and only if application has enabled the collection of this data. This is for three primary reasons: Data privacy concerns. End users of GenAI applications may input sensitive information or personally identifiable information (PII) that they do not wish to be sent to a telemetry backend. Data size concerns. Although there is no specified limit to sizes, there are practical limitations in programming languages and telemetry systems. Some GenAI systems allow for extremely large context windows that end users may take full advantage of. Performance concerns. Sending large amounts of data to a telemetry backend may cause performance issues for the application. Body fields that contain user input, model output, or other potentially sensitive and verbose data SHOULD NOT be captured by default.

plusieurs ressources concernant les pratiques de #logging dans vos applications #Python :
- dash0.com/guides/logging-in-py tutoriel et conseils sur le module logging (et qq bibliothèques)
- une vidéo sur le même sujet : youtu.be/9L77QExPmI0
- une bibliothèque éprouvée pour logguer vos messages sous la forme de messages, pour une exploration avec des outils comme #kibana

www.dash0.comApplication Logging in Python: Recipes for Observability · Dash0Stop debugging with unstructured text Learn to build a robust Python logging system with structured JSON automatic context and full request lifecycle tracking

youtube.com/watch?v=cmRJ8Y7clb

Great video on roadless areas around #lassenpark in #EasternCalifornia by a forest manager and cartographer.

Logging risked areas may not help with fire and land management. There's a lot of nuance that goes into proper stewardship of forests, highly managed forests of dense monocrop trees burn hotter than less continuous and varied stands actively managed with prescribed fire.