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caravantravellers 🌈<a href="https://digitalcourage.social/@gilde" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gilde</a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/@ct_Magazin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ct_Magazin</a> Wir verwenden es neben <a href="https://social.cologne/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Signal</a> Ein Vorteil von <a href="https://social.cologne/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltaChat</a> ist, dass es auf mehreren Geräten parallel verwendet werden kann, auch auf mehreren Android-Geräten.Signal erlaubt immer nur ein Android-Gerät. Beim Aktivieren auf einem zweiten Gerät wird es auf dem ersten deaktiviert. Außerdem wird dabei ein neuer Schlüssel generiert, was Kommunikationspartner verunsichern kann.Es funktioniert prima, ist aber nicht immer ganz so schnell. Telefonieren geht damit auch nicht.

DNKrupinski<a href="https://loma.ml/profile/feb" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@feb</a> <a href="https://hannover.town/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> ist der entsprechend Hashtag

Matthias<a href="https://loma.ml/search?tag=Delta+Chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Delta Chat</a> soll in Russland abliefern. Daten der Nutzer. Das Unternehmen wehrt sich dagegen. Kostenlose Werbung und Aufwertung des Messenger!

ClemensG<a href="https://digitalcourage.social/@gilde" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gilde</a> Das hätte Putin gerne, dass er unsere privatesten Sachen mitlesen könnte. Aber DeltaChat, bei uns der Familien-Messenger, ist Ende-zu-Ende-verschlüsselt, da kann auch der Kreml-Hitler nicht mitlesen. Auch Zensursula von-der-Laien wird sich daran die Chat-Control-Zähne ausbeißen.Mittlerweile hat DC die einfachste Einrichtung, die ich im Internetbereich kenne, einen hochstabilen Betrieb, ist dezentral organisiert und Ende-zu-Ende-verschlüsselt. Kurzum: Beste FOSS.Sieht aus wie WhatsApp oder Signal, nutzt für den Nachrichten-Transport aber das weltweit verteilte Netz der eMail-Server. Also widerstandsfähig gegen Zensur.Seit Jahren gibt es jeden Monat ein Update. Die Software ist hochzuverlässig, die Entwickler sind es auch. Die Software ist aber auch so gut geworden, weil da ca. 1,7 Millionen Euro europäische Staatsgelder drinstecken. Hervorragend angelegtes Geld.<a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a><a href="https://social.heise.de/@ct_Magazin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ct_Magazin</a>

Gauff 🇪🇺Bon, je vais râler un peu. Je m'en excuse d'avance.J'ai progressé sur mon <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/raspberrypi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#raspberrypi</a> , sur mon <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/VPS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VPS</a> , j'ai quelques services qui tournent (<a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/pihole" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pihole</a> et <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/syncthing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#syncthing</a> ). Bref, mon <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SelfHosting</a> avance.J'ai envie de continuer: une instance <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> , éventuellement <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mastodon</a> , ...Et là, je trouve humblement que de fameuses difficultés débarquent: bases de données, gestion des versions de <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#python</a> , <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/docker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#docker</a> (qui semble résoudre ces difficultés, mais qui refuse de marcher chez moi!).Oui, la communauté est géniale, je lis, j'apprends, mais j'ai mes moments de découragement, dont maintenant...

Rapha3l<a href="https://social.heise.de/@ct_Magazin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ct_Magazin</a> Staatliche Reklame für Delta Chat!<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@adfichter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@adfichter</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/@martinsteiger" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@martinsteiger</a> <a href="https://lemmy.zip/c/delta_chat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@delta_chat</a> <a href="https://social.g2od.ch/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> <a href="https://social.g2od.ch/tags/Russland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Russland</a> <a href="https://social.g2od.ch/tags/eu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eu</a> <a href="https://merlinux.eu/press/2025-05-14-russia-deltachat.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://merlinux.eu/press/2025-05-14-russia-deltachat.pdf</a><a href="https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix.html</a>

Lardier<a href="https://social.heise.de/@ct_Magazin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ct_Magazin</a> Eine besser Empfehlung bezüglich des Datenschutzes kann <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> fast nicht bekommen.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.heise.de/@ct_Magazin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ct_Magazin</a> Tja, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Russland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Russland</a>.kapiert halt nicht was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SelfCustody</a> u.d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eMail</a> ist und dass <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@delta</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltaChat</a> weder Zugriff auf <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nachrichten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Nachrichten</a> noch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Schl%C3%BCssel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Schlüssel</a> haben!<ul><li>Wann verbietet <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Roskomnadnozr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Roskomnadnozr</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@thunderbird</a> ?</li></ul>

Alejandro Baez<a href="https://mastodon.blaede.family/@cassidy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@cassidy</a> have you tried <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a>? Not affiliated, but has serve me pretty well. 😎Uses email as the protocol for communication. And barrier to entry is relatively low. If using what they call a <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> server anyway. 😅<a href="https://delta.chat/en/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://delta.chat/en/</a>

DanieruOtakuBoy¿Alguien del Fediverso ya ha probado <a href="https://vzla.masto.host/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a>?He visto un vídeo en PeerTube donde hablaban de ello y quería saber como tal si realmente se está usando.Se ve linda la plataforma, me recuerda a Telegram con su diseño.<a href="https://fediverse.tv/w/5aqraAuaLKiZDaXcL2mhVD" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://fediverse.tv/w/5aqraAuaLKiZDaXcL2mhVD</a>

Martin HamiltonTIL about <a href="https://martinh.net/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a>, an open source decentralised messaging system with end-to-end encryption (<a href="https://martinh.net/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#E2EE</a>) that runs on top of... email ! <a href="https://delta.chat/en/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://delta.chat/en/</a>In some of the discussions around the UK <a href="https://martinh.net/tags/OnlineSafetyAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OnlineSafetyAct</a> (<a href="https://martinh.net/tags/OSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSA</a>) this kind of thing came up as a would-OSA-apply-or-not hypothetical test case, so it's amusing to discover that it has been around for years :blobfoxdead: And yes, there is an open source fedi bot that uses the Mastodon API, converting posts to/from email :aMarxParty:

Delta Chat<a href="https://pleroma.envs.net/users/sl" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@sl</a> there is no evidence simplex is particularly resilient .. eg it's been effectively blocked in Russia even if you host inside the country. Matrix impls have dependencies on element servers (newvector) with widgets for example and even if you host a home server inside a country. With telegram and signal people use proxies ... <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> has first class support for managing proxies (shadowsocks/ss also used by telegram so one can use the same place proxies with delta)

Marcus Rohrmoser 🌻<a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@delta</a> does, thanks a lot for <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a>!P.S., unrelated: sadly there's no <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> client.

LimpingПо-моему <a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> очень приличный мессенджер из тех, кто не требуют номера телефона. Прекрасные клиенты, на десктопе и мобильный. И вот пишут на <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@delta</a> про фишку для случаев чебурнета: если использовать для переписки национальные сервисы, то пусть и с задержками, но связь всё-таки останется. Более надёжного варианта я пока не знаю.

Delta ChatWe'd like to remind everyone that a self-hosted <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relay is best shared in some wider than family circles. In crisis situations everbody does better when helping others. A typical 1gb RAM chatmail relay VPS for 5-10 eur per month supports 50k+ daily users.chatmail VPSes are stateless. You can wipe all disk state, reinstall and chatting will resume. Conversely, <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> does not keep or depend on any server state .Operators under pressure do not need to feel bad to hand over data.

Delta ChatOverheard last night from two users in <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Cuba" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Cuba</a> user1: "the people are currently in need not only to save data plan but also to have more security in their conversations"user2: "also stability. Right now the whole of Guantanamo is in blackout with problems in several radio-bases/cell-towers due to the lack of power/electricity and here I am talking like nothing / without breaking a sweat"user2: "while WhatsApp doesn't even manage to connect"<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> is for when centralization hits the fan

adb<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#meta</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ai</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/whatsapp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#whatsapp</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltaChat</a>

Pete<a href="https://mamot.fr/@ploum" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ploum</a> Or @deltachat:<a href="https://delta.chat/en/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://delta.chat/en/</a><a href="https://mas.to/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@delta</a> also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltaChat</a> natively supports <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Proxies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Proxies</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VPN</a>|s and <a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@torproject</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tor</a> so not only can people use it that way but also use any other bypass method.<ul><li>Obviously, the classic <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sneakernet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sneakernet</a> with people doing <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUCP" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><code>uucp</code></a> with foreign mobile networks near borders works just as well...</li></ul>I'd not be surprised if delta Chat is also used by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RimjinGang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RimjinGang</a><a href="https://www.asiapress.org/rimjin-gang/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">*</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/38North" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#38North</a><a href="https://www.38north.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">**</a> for a "contactless sneakernet" tho I am convinced they won't confirm or deny that for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpSec</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#InfoSec</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ComSec</a> reasons alone...<ul><li>I mean, both <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Iran" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Iran</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NorthKorea" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NorthKorea</a> ain't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Iraq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Iraq</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Syria" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Syria</a> where one could just take a phat satellite dish, strap an LTE stick or even external antennas on and just point it at turkish or lebanese radio towers near the border, as owning any satellite equipment in these places is a guarantee to get publicly executed for "espionage"...</li></ul>

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