Bradley M. Kuhn<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cwebber</span></a></span>, are you are familiar w/ this <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/ThisAmericanLife" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ThisAmericanLife</span></a> segment?… <a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/516/stuck-in-the-middle-2014/act-one-0" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">thisamericanlife.org/516/stuck</span><span class="invisible">-in-the-middle-2014/act-one-0</span></a><br>…Since I heard the above ≈10 yrs ago, I've been annoyed ∄ a searchable database of known hold music (no, I won't use Google or Alexa).</p><p>Another thing I ponder on hold:<br>When I hear <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/GPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GPL</span></a>'d clips that are clearly Allison Smith's voice¹ from <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/Asterisk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Asterisk</span></a>, I ponder if playing them to me is distribution & thus <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> violation.</p><p>Cc: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.km6g.us/@kevin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kevin</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://xoxo.zone/@clarity" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>clarity</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://solarpunk.moe/@vv" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>vv</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@ATLeagle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ATLeagle</span></a></span><br>¹ <a href="https://theivrvoice.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">theivrvoice.com/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> <a href="https://my.digium.com/en/products/ivr/allisonsmith/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">my.digium.com/en/products/ivr/</span><span class="invisible">allisonsmith/</span></a></p>
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eruwero<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@justinf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>justinf</span></a></span> in some sense yes, but the <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/GPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GPL</span></a> focuses on freedom for the users of the software to run, modify, share the software, study the source code etc. And it prevents others from restricting that freedom by making more restrictive derivatives (<a href="https://ieji.de/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a>). It's not about the freedom for other developers to use the code for whatever they want, which seems to be the focus of the MIT license and some others. That's an important distinction IMO</p><p><a href="https://ieji.de/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>freesoftware</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/floss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>floss</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a></p>
Bo Morgan<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fsfe" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fsfe</span></a></span> </p><p>Good to read a success story about Free Software license enforcement. A new term I learned today: CCS (Complete Corresponding Source).</p><p><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/fosh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fosh</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>freesoftware</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/legal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>legal</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/licensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>licensing</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/license" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>license</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/copyright" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyright</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/ccs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ccs</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@juliank" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>juliank</span></a></span> I wished there were more groups like <a href="https://gpl-violations.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">gpl-violations</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpl-violations.org" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">¹</a> to enforce the terms in the very least for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RightToRepair" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RightToRepair</span></a>…</p><ul><li>If manufacturers don't like to deal woth <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Copyleft</span></a> obligatioms, they're free to choose a different OS, like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sony</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nintendo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Nintendo</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FreeBSD</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Windows</span></a>) & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apple</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>macOS</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>iOS</span></a>) did.</li></ul>
Bradley M. Kuhn<p>😲🤬 re: what's happened to <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Codeberg</span></a></span> today.<br>The AI ballyhoo *is* a real DDoS against one of the few code hosting sites that takes a stand against slurping <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> code into LLM training sets — in violation of <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a>.</p><p>Deregulation/lack-of-regulation will bring more of this. ∃ plenty of blame to go around, but <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a> & <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/GitHub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GitHub</span></a> deserve the bulk of it; they trailblazed the idea that FOSS code-hosting sites are lucrative targets.</p><p><a href="https://giveupgithub.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">giveupgithub.org</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/GiveUpGitHub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GiveUpGitHub</span></a> <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/FreeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FreeSoftware</span></a> <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a></p>
Bradley M. Kuhn<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@smallcircles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>smallcircles</span></a></span> <br>It's a hard & difficult job to write new licenses, particularly a license that serves the users (& not lawyers and their wealthy Big Tech clients.)</p><p><a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a>-<span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/@next" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>next</span></a></span> will move slowly & steadily. I must focus on the final days of the <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/Vizio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Vizio</span></a> case before trial, but I'm looking forward to my “vacation” after the Vizio trial to be work on <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> -next! </p><p>Watch <a href="https://sfc.ngo/vizio/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">sfc.ngo/vizio/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> for more info on <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/Vizio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Vizio</span></a> case!</p><p>Cc: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@richardfontana" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>richardfontana</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/@next" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>next</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fedi.jaenis.ch/@andre" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>andre</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@dentangle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dentangle</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/@neil" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>neil</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://neuromatch.social/@jdp23" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jdp23</span></a></span></p>
Bradley M. Kuhn<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@smallcircles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>smallcircles</span></a></span> suggested:</p><p>> “Or try <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://floss.social/@forgejo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>forgejo</span></a></span> — the code <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/forge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>forge</span></a> that <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/Codeberg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Codeberg</span></a> is based on.” </p><p>I agree completely & in <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a>-<span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/@next" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>next</span></a></span> project, we're using <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/forgejo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>forgejo</span></a> <<a href="https://git.copyleft.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">git.copyleft.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a>>!</p><p>I mentioned <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Codeberg</span></a></span> specifically upthread (& not other options) b/c (a) 500-char <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> limit & (b) <<a href="https://codeberg.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">codeberg.org</span><span class="invisible"></span></a>> is likely the best option for those who want to <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/GiveUpGitHub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GiveUpGitHub</span></a> <<a href="https://giveupgithub.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">giveupgithub.org</span><span class="invisible"></span></a>> quickly.</p><p>Absolutely, <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/ForgeFederation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ForgeFederation</span></a> is the future: <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> for CODE!</p><p>Cc: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://floss.social/@forgefed" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>forgefed</span></a></span></p>
Bradley M. Kuhn<p>In the case of <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/Wikipedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wikipedia</span></a>, though, printed copies should always offer &/or be accompanied with electronic copies. Wikipedia should really be under copyleft and it's not.</p><p>After all, paper printout is but a rudimentary form of DRM.</p><p>I'm not saying CC-BY-SA is useless and shouldn't exist, I'm saying there **is no** <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> in the CC license group. CC even used to encourage photographers license scaled versions CC-BY-SA & keep high quality images proprietary.</p><p>Cc: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cwebber</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://wikis.world/@wikipedia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>wikipedia</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.librem.one/@dos" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dos</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@dpk" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dpk</span></a></span></p>
Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣<p>I learned today that because of the strong Moral Rights protection in the <a href="https://c.im/tags/Philippines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Philippines</span></a> , it is not possible for Authors/Creators (defined as "natural persons" by law) to dedicate/release their work to the <a href="https://c.im/tags/PublicDomain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PublicDomain</span></a> .</p><p>And even if we use 0BSD, MIT-0, CC0, and other similar public-domain-equivalent licenses, we can still sue anyone who:</p><p>1. Misused our name<br>2. Misrepresented us<br>3. Misused our work (downstream)</p><p>All under Moral Rights because we can never waived it under Philippine law. Even with a promise not to sue anyone is not a guarantee.</p><p>So, saying, "This work is under 0BSD/MIT-0/CC0 and I will never sue anyone for whatever reason", won't work under Philippine law. The Creator/Author will always have their Moral Rights as the creator/author of the work. It's completely up to you to trust that they will fulfill their promise. 🤪</p><p><a href="https://c.im/tags/Copyright" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Copyright</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Copyleft</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Licenses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Licenses</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/ShareAlike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ShareAlike</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/FreeCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FreeCulture</span></a></p><p>👉🏽 <a href="https://c.im/tags/IANAL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IANAL</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/TINLA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TINLA</span></a></p>
Bradley M. Kuhn<p>An employee of Cook/Jobs, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://front-end.social/@jensimmons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jensimmons</span></a></span>, asks on a copylefted platform what she can do improve to <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/WebKit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebKit</span></a>.</p><p>The answer is simple: Comply with the LGPLv2.1 —as your track record on that is abysmally poor. Participate with upstream projects rather than manipulating them so you can control them.</p><p>Employees of your company used to be forbidden from talking to FOSS communities. You've spent decades working against <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a>. But you now follow Microsoft's plan to “embrace, extend, & extinguish” <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a>.</p>
Bradley M. Kuhn<p>Under v3, it's surely a violation,<br><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cwebber</span></a></span>.</p><p>GPLv3 group is unique among <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> licenses in that “modify” is defined:<br>> ”To ‘modify’ a work means to copy from or adapt all or part of the work in a fashion requiring copyright permission”</p><p>If you need copyright permission to add the REST API calls (which of course you do), then GPLv3§12 kicks in immediately if Chatgpt's license or ToS or TaC in *any* way contradict GPLv3's terms.</p><p>Bob's your uncle & you violate copyleft.</p><p>Cc: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://freeradical.zone/@suetanvil" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>suetanvil</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@jmax" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jmax</span></a></span></p>
Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gamerplus.org/@screwlisp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>screwlisp</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@amszmidt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>amszmidt</span></a></span> </p><p>The beauty of <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/libre" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>libre</span></a> licensing, specifically the <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Copyleft</span></a> subset, is that the world doesn't have to depend on the behaviour of one company - others can fork the code. Examples of that happening abound. Not so with proprietary. I'm also not a fan of 'weak' <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/libre" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>libre</span></a> licenses, e.g. BSD & MIT, etc. And I revile software patents (see <a href="https://softwarepatents.org.nz" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">softwarepatents.org.nz</span><span class="invisible"></span></a>)</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://emacs.social/@eduardoochs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>eduardoochs</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://climatejustice.social/@kentpitman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kentpitman</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@dougmerritt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dougmerritt</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://appdot.net/@mdhughes" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mdhughes</span></a></span></p>
Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gamerplus.org/@screwlisp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>screwlisp</span></a></span> I'm familiar with neither anggtwu.net/#eev nor <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://emacs.social/@eduardoochs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>eduardoochs</span></a></span> I"m afraid. <br><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://climatejustice.social/@kentpitman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kentpitman</span></a></span> </p><p>For what it's worth, I've made a career out of producing nothing but <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/libre" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>libre</span></a> (<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Copyleft</span></a>) software & providing related services... 31 years now. I'm against proprietary on principle: <a href="https://davelane.nz/proprietary" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">davelane.nz/proprietary</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@dougmerritt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dougmerritt</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://appdot.net/@mdhughes" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mdhughes</span></a></span></p>
dorotaC<p>About <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/GPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GPL</span></a> .</p><p>If I buy a second-hand device with <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> on it, who's responsible for giving me the sources?</p><p>It seems logical to me that the person I bought it from. But good luck getting sources from a private rando ( <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/sustainability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sustainability</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/reuse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>reuse</span></a> ). </p><p>On the other hand, my <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/ISP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ISP</span></a> sells me, say a <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Huawei" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Huawei</span></a> device. Is the ISP obliged to give me sources or can they say "it's not our problem" and send me to the manufacturer?</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/askfedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>askfedi</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/copyright" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyright</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>freesoftware</span></a></p>
alxd of the Story Seed Library<p>Do you know any <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/arabic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>arabic</span></a> , <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/spanish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>spanish</span></a> or <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/mandarin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mandarin</span></a> <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/translator" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>translator</span></a> who might be interested in translating <a href="https://storyseedlibrary.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">storyseedlibrary.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> , a <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/solarpunk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>solarpunk</span></a> <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/art" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>art</span></a> and <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a> site with lots of <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/Copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Copyleft</span></a> materials?</p><p>Sadly, there's no funding for the project, only bringing more human-made, intentional, optimistic <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/climate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>climate</span></a> <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/futurism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>futurism</span></a> materials to new audiences!</p><p><a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/translation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>translation</span></a> <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/translating" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>translating</span></a></p>
Fireside Fedi<p><a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/followfriday" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>followfriday</span></a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/followfridays" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>followfridays</span></a><br><br>IMO these should ALWAYS be included and followed:<br><br><span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.growyourown.services/@FediTips" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>FediTips</span></a></span><br><span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.growyourown.services/@FediFollows" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>FediFollows</span></a></span><br><br>Physical creations:<br><br><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.content.town/@operationpuppet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>operationpuppet</span></a></span> - <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/puppet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>puppet</span></a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/creator" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>creator</span></a>, <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/owncaster" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>owncaster</span></a> , <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/peertuber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>peertuber</span></a><br><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@potterybyosa" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>potterybyosa</span></a></span> - <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/beautiful" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>beautiful</span></a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/pottery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pottery</span></a><br><br>Digital creations:<br><br><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.content.town/@operationpuppet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>operationpuppet</span></a></span> - <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/developer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>developer</span></a>, <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/artist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>artist</span></a>, <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyLEFT</span></a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/advocate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>advocate</span></a><br><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@_elena" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>_elena</span></a></span> - <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/filmmaker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>filmmaker</span></a>, <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/blogger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>blogger</span></a>, <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/selfhoster" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>selfhoster</span></a><br><span class="h-card"><a href="https://floss.social/@monospace" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monospace</span></a></span> - <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/owncaster" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Owncaster</span></a>, <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/devops" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DevOps</span></a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/trainer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>trainer</span></a><br></p>
Bradley M. Kuhn<p>It's not bitterness on your part,, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://toot.liw.fi/@liw" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>liw</span></a></span> — it's having political memory.</p><p>Politicians (regular ones or unelected tech industry ones) *rely* on folks not seeing the long game that's afoot.</p><p><a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a> still has same goals re: <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a>: end <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> in favor of exploitable non-copyleft — old-school embrace, extend, extinguish.</p><p>& now fanboys help them!: <a href="https://github.com/sirredbeard/microsoft-opensource" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/sirredbeard/microso</span><span class="invisible">ft-opensource</span></a> … timeline starts in 2004 — ignoring early moves making seem like Microsoft just ignored FOSS until 2004.</p><p>Cc: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@carnage4life" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>carnage4life</span></a></span></p>
Bradley M. Kuhn<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@carnage4life" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>carnage4life</span></a></span> Good point & 🙄 re: Brad Smith. His name is in the top five reasons why I stopped accepting "Brad" as my name circa 2001…I did not wanna share a name with the (then) General Counsel of $MSFT.</p><p>I think many don't realize that there is a *lawyer* (not a technologist) who has been President of Microsoft for years.</p><p>Brad Smith is also believed to be (we can't prove it — Microsoft state secrets) the mastermind behind the anti-<a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> / anti-<a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/GPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GPL</span></a> campaign of the early 2000s.</p><p>Cc: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://toot.liw.fi/@liw" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>liw</span></a></span></p>
Carlos SolísI wonder if <a href="https://hub.azkware.net/search?tag=BOINC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BOINC</span></a> would accept the distributed training of a fully <a href="https://hub.azkware.net/search?tag=copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> <a href="https://hub.azkware.net/search?tag=LLM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LLM</span></a> as a project, or if they'd burn the proposal in fire. Or, to make things even more unholy, somebody makes a <a href="https://hub.azkware.net/search?tag=cryptocurrency" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cryptocurrency</span></a> whose proof of work is itself training a LLM.
An interesting thread from #copyleft-next mailing list this week:
A thread about improving readability of defined terms…
https://lists.copyleft.org/pipermail/next/2025q3/000027.html
… has inspired some discussion about broader strategic approach to drafting a #copyleft license in 2025…
https://lists.copyleft.org/pipermail/next/2025q3/000032.html
https://lists.copyleft.org/pipermail/next/2025q3/000033.html
@bkuhn has coined the term “specious argument vector” … but who knows if it'll catch on?
lists.copyleft.orgWhat do the defined acronyms stand for?
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