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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@ytc1" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ytc1</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@DenOfEarth" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>DenOfEarth</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@aka_pugs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>aka_pugs</span></a></span> I know.</p><p>And espechally in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ScientificComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ScientificComputing</span></a> a lot of researchers <em>loved</em> working with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SunMicrosystems" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SunMicrosystems</span></a> and when <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Oracle</span></a> took over that relationship got sour'd instantly due to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Oracle</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CEO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CEO</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LarryEllison" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LarryEllison</span></a>...</p><p>-&gt; <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114682503920794745" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1146825</span><span class="invisible">03920794745</span></a></p><p>One of the big successes of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sun" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sun</span></a> was that they basically declared a unilateral <em>"ceasefire"</em> in terms of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IP</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Patents" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Patents</span></a> re: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a>. Whereas Oracle didn't seem willing to honour that.</p><ul><li>Without that <em>cooperative</em> atmosphere we saw <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenOffice</span></a> devs literally <em>forking off</em> into <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@libreoffice" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>libreoffice</span></a></span> and projects like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>illumos</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@openzfs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>openzfs</span></a></span> scramble to save what was OpenSource'd and also rescue that.</li></ul><p>Obviously <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> with it's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv2only" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv2only</span></a>-Kernel and most of it's Userland could not get <em>'closed-sourced'</em> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSolaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSolaris</span></a> which instantly got stomped out by Oracle as they wanted to sqeeze <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Solaris</span></a> for profits and milk their clients <em>in typical Oracle fashion</em>...</p><ul><li>Which is sad because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/competition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>competition</span></a> breeds <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/innovation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>innovation</span></a> and a lot of stuff like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zones</span></a> in Solaris really were at their time really forcing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KVM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KVM</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bhyve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bhyve</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BSDjails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BSDjails</span></a> to up their game for good.</li></ul><p>Now granted, I do know someone who for most of their life made their money dealing with the intricacies of setting up <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/postfix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>postfix</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sendmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sendmail</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/courier" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>courier</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MailServers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MailServers</span></a> on Solaris and if I ask said person about that they give me a kilometer stare, so OFC like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SysV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SysV</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Unix</span></a> systems Solaris and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SunOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SunOS</span></a> really are one of the reasons <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WindowsNT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WindowsNT</span></a> won the <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WorkstationWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WorkstationWar</span></a>"</em> and why - if anyone - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apple</span></a> won the last <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnixWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UnixWar</span></a>"</em>...</p><ul><li>Still I do am sad that I declined that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sysadmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sysadmin</span></a> position at a leading research center <em>I'm not at liberty to name</em> and I do know there's OFC still some critical infrastructure running even older Solaris servers...</li></ul><p><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@ytc1/114689337148586939" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mastodon.sdf.org/@ytc1/1146893</span><span class="invisible">37148586939</span></a></p>