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Thorsten Leemhuis (acct. 1/4)

Linus still did neither remove bcachefs from #Linux #kernel nor pulled the updates for 6.17 Kent submitted.

The latter meanwhile wrote a few mails to #LKML which in diplomatic phrases might be called "not really helpful", like this one lore.kernel.org/all/3ik3h6hfm4

It resulted in a few good replies from respected developers that are worth a read if you are followed the topic, among them from Josef Bacik (lore.kernel.org/all/2025080919 ), Matthew Wilcox (lore.kernel.org/all/aJfTPliez_ ), Sasha Levin (lore.kernel.org/all/aJgaiFS3aA ) and Theodore Ts'o (lore.kernel.org/all/2025081002 & lore.kernel.org/all/2025081005).

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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@BrodieOnLinux @qdot I find it weird to see #FLOSS #devs use an #InformationBlackhole like #discord which combines all the disadvantages of #MailingList, #IRC, #XMPP, #Matrix and even #MicrosoftTeams and #Signal without any redeeming qualities of any of those, like a functioning search & logging.

  • Like the #LKML is kinda shit in terms of UX but at least there are searchable indexes for it so one can just point at a specific message & comment wthout having to be granted access to it.

Not to mention that discord is #ableist af by literally preventing the use of #Screenreader-friendly browsers such as #Lynx and #dillo to work, blocking @torproject / #Tor users and explicitly banning the use of it's #API to build better clients.

  • Not even a #paid-for exception is offered, thus making integration into even paid-for tools like #HootSuite not legally possible!
#paid#hootsuite
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Dendrobatus Azureus

Linus Torvalds has proper motivated reasons for really disliking file systems without a case sensitivity.

Read this with me from the kernel lkml, regarding bcachefs.

Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs fixes for 6.15-rc4 - Linus Torvalds
lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wja

🖋️ #bash #sh #zsh #ksh #csh #tcsh #fish #git #Linux #lkml #POSIX #FOSS #100daysofCode #640DaysOfCode #coding #1024DaysOfCode #github #programming #Torvalds #filesystem

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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@debby that assumes @protonprivacy actually cares about #Privacy, which they evidently don't, cuz otherwise they'd never even #log or #request any #PII to begin with and instead offer their Services via @torproject / #Tor as #OnionService…

  • Not to mention they fuck around with customers' #eMails, thus having prevented people from contributing to the #LKML in the past...

To me this isn't a big loss, but a conditionless surrender in favour of better competitiors like @monocles and even @Stuxhost for that matter...

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Kevin Karhan :verified:

#discord IS LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!

I'm shure fecking #dread has better moderation and I'd rather use #MicrosoftTeams + #Slack cuz those at least have proper #moderation tools.

  • And I'd rather subscribe to the #LKML and see my inbox getting hosed than using any shitty #SaaS!

Case in point: I'd rather #SelfHost all my comms infrastructure than to ever use something like Discord or any other #GDPR-violating SaaS that is just enshittification.

I'd rather recommend people to instead choose a tool that does everything but horrible to go with multiple smaller & good tools

Check @alternativeto and @european_alternatives for options.

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Thorsten Leemhuis (acct. 1/4)

Ohh, there was another discussion on #LKML about "modern #Linux distros should be more careful mounting untrusted storage devices, as they might contain maliciously corrupted filesystems that can cause the #kernel to fail"

Good entry point to the discussion: lore.kernel.org/all/Z8948cR5ak

"[…] We've tried for years to get userspace to adopt a more security-aware model for untrusted devices, but have made pretty much no progress. […]"

#LinuxKernel
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Maxi 11x 💉

Wenn ihr ansonsten auf der #LKML schreibt, mein Rat: Nur über so was wie Firefox Relay schreiben / Adresse im Mailclient dahin modifizieren (bin mir gerade nicht sicher, ob das dann durchgeht), weil die Webscraper des Mailarchivs euch nachher Spam bescheren.

Maxi 11x 💉

Wann man auf der #LKML beantragen, dass die eigene Mailadresse da rausgelöscht wird? Seit ich vor ~3 Jahren geschrieben habe, bekomme ich auf der Adresse Spam, es ist ärgerlich, weil ich auch sonst immer aufgepasst habe.

Francesco Degrassi

Torvalds finally steps in and calls out the very same behaviour that Hector Martin was.

lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux

Turns out LKML was just having connectivity issues, like very VERY bad latency: several proper responses took 3 weeks to get there. /s

“Wait and see” while people burn out is not a strategy I feel I can get behind.
#linux #rust #lkml

lore.kernel.orgRe: Rust kernel policy - Linus Torvalds
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Thorsten Leemhuis (acct. 1/4)

2/ For completeness, as it's easy to miss in Kent's long post:

Kent refuses to send a public apology for a remark to a mm developer that lead to the escalation to the COC. Search for "you should probably send him an apology" in his Patreon post to find a good place to start.

Also note that Kent resurrected the #LKML thread with the remark yesterday; new messages start here: lore.kernel.org/all/vvulqfvftc

Thorsten Leemhuis (acct. 1/4)

Linus on #LKML today:

"""Honestly, I'm pretty damn fed up with buggy hardware and completely theoretical attacks that have never actually shown themselves to be used in practice.

So I think this time we push back on the hardware people […]

Because dammit, let's put the onus on where the blame lies, and not just take any random shit from bad hardware and say "oh, but it *might* be a problem".

Linus"'"

lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-=wiUa

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