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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://post.lurk.org/@despens" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@despens</a> EMBRACE <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> INSTEAD!

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@stman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@stman</a> <a href="https://cathode.church/@50htz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@50htz</a> <a href="https://social.solarpunk.au/users/vidak" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@vidak</a> <a href="https://masto.hackers.town/@theruran" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@theruran</a> <a href="https://mastodon.net2o.de/@forthy42" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@forthy42</a> merely doubling the baudrate per wavelenght compared to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RONJA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RONJA</a> can yield 100MBit/s at 5 wavelenghts, whilst offering us better link budget & range. <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114719599251092905" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114719599251092905</a>Not to mention <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> as a protocol could be repurposed as a diagnostics / link renegotiation channel and even as ultra-long-range / <a href="https://irdroid.eu/product/irdroid-usb-irda-transceiver-2/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">narrowband</a> & broadcasting (PtMP) solution (see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IrLAN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrLAN</a>)… Note that the maximum possible range achieveable under lab conditions will be way better than the real-world outputs, simply because not only does humidity and rain exist, but where it doesn't (i.e. deserts) thermal stress and expansion is moving things out of optimal alignment over the day...<ul><li>And in a lab you don't have things potentially disturbing it.</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://toot.cat/@riley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@riley</a> Case in point, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> on optical bandwiths would work excellent for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DataExchange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DataExchange</a> on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/airgapped" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#airgapped</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gap_(networking)#Examples" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">systems</a> with minimal risk of violating <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TEMPEST" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TEMPEST</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(codename)#Shielding_standards" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">or similar standards</a>, thus making <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red/black_concept" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">RED/BLACK</a> seperation in various projects on mine simpler.<ul><li>Not to mention it's trivial to spoof or merely jam <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/wireless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#wireless</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RF</a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NFC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NFC</a>]<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-field_communication" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">*</a> and thus denying the ability to use these, whereas it's harder to block a line-of-sight without being identified as root cause of it.</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://toot.cat/@riley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@riley</a> The <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IrOBEX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrOBEX</a> standard is part of the whole <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> specification...The most interesting part is the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LowLevel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LowLevel</a> stuff, cuz theoretically one could just apply that to any optical system ranging from consumer LEDs to Laser pointers to fiberoptical assemblies.<ul><li>But most importantly I do think that IrDA would work great at a diagnostics / negotiation system for the revised <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RONJA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RONJA</a> PtP link that <a href="https://mastodon.social/@stman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@stman</a> is working on, aiming to do 100 Mbit/s Ethernet with cheap COTS parts. </li></ul><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RONJA" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RONJA</a>As IR will be extremely quickly attenuated by the slightest amount of atmospheric moisture (aka. rain and fog) using visible light spectrum is an easier workaround.<ul><li>Plus that tech he's working on could yield a better short-range, contactless data exchange protocol where WiFi, and Bluetooth are not desireable and where passive security-by-design is desireable.</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@stman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@stman</a> <a href="https://social.solarpunk.au/users/vidak" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@vidak</a> <a href="https://cathode.church/@50htz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@50htz</a> <a href="https://masto.hackers.town/@theruran" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@theruran</a> <a href="https://mastodon.net2o.de/@forthy42" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@forthy42</a> as for "protocol" I'd recommend to take a closer look at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> since there are a shitton of cheap transcievers and implementations available and it would allow this to be reused for a secure P2P data exchange and secure contactless networking solution that is inherently harder (if not basically impossible) to eavesdrop on compared to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bluetooth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Bluetooth</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WiFi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WiFi</a>.<ul><li>Plus it'll be a potentially better alternative to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiFi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LiFi</a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Broadcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Broadcast</a> useage.</li></ul>Not to mention I've not seen any IrDA devices >4MBit/s in the wild, with most being 9600bit/s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/serial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#serial</a> links fir the most part, and having a direct optical data exchange that takes literal seconds instead of minutes would really have a lot of good use cases i.e. in medical fields, where having a fully sterilizeable computer is kibda important and having a docking cradle with a charging coil and optical "port" would really be appreciated.In fact ITU G.9991 (G.vlc) & IEEE 802.11bb are worth looking into as well just to see advantages and disadvantages... <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IrDA" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IrDA</a> <a href="https://en.mikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Fi" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://en.mikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Fi</a>

Judeau (EatTheRich)[6/6] <a href="https://mas.to/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> is up and running on <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a> 10. I can now wirelessly transfer files between my Laptop and <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PocketPC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PocketPC</a>!It’s much more convenient than having to juggle multiple proprietary cables.It’s one cable to rule them all. One cable to transfer files across every IrDA enable device and I love it!This is amazing and I believe I have achieved what I set out to do; Restore the FULL functionality of Pocket Pcs on modern hardware!<a href="https://mas.to/tags/PDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PDA</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/WindowsCE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WindowsCE</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/RetroComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RetroComputing</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Handheld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Handheld</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/WindowsMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WindowsMobile</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PC</a>

Judeau (EatTheRich)[5/6] I then went to Gearmo’s webpage and downloaded their MCS7780 driver at <a href="https://www.gearmo.com/shop/fast-usb2-infrared-adapter/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.gearmo.com/shop/fast-usb2-infrared-adapter/</a>I plugged in the Gearmo <a href="https://mas.to/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> dongle and opened Device Manager. I found it listed under “Other Devices.” I right clicked on it and selected “Properties.” I navigated to the “Driver” tab and clicked “Update Drivers.” I then selected the driver I had just downloaded and a moment later the device was up and running!Success!!!<a href="https://mas.to/tags/RetroComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RetroComputing</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PC</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/WindowsMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WindowsMobile</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/WindowsCE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WindowsCE</a>

Judeau (EatTheRich)[4/6] Finding a compatible <a href="https://mas.to/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> dongle at a reasonable price is quite a challenge and most of them no longer have current working drivers.Fortunately SCUBA divers use IrDA for a lot of their old devices and on the Scubaboard forum I learned at the heart of some IrDA dongles was a Moschip or Asix chip MCS7780 and there is a working driver for these.I searched for a list of dongles that used this chip and found an old one by Gearmo for only 40 bucks on Ebay.<a href="https://mas.to/tags/RetroComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RetroComputing</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PC</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a>

Judeau (EatTheRich)[3/6] We have two objectives to get this going: - Install the <a href="https://mas.to/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> stack. - Find a compatible dongle with working drivers.Let’s begin by installing the stack. It’s the easiest part and only takes a few minutes.In <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a> 10 open Settings and select System > Optional Features > Add a Feature. Now scroll down the list and select “IrDA Infrared” to install it.After a few minutes it should be installed! Awesome! We are half way there!<a href="https://mas.to/tags/RetroComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RetroComputing</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PC</a>

Judeau (EatTheRich)[2/6] There is a lot of old and outdated information concerning <a href="https://mas.to/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> on Windows 10. It also does not help that the information is spread across all parts of the web. For someone like me who had no experience with IrDA it was a massive amount of scattered information the sift through. I want to thank everyone that helped me out and offered advice.Hopefully having all of this info consolidated here will help others and ease efforts to keep these devices fully functional.

Judeau (EatTheRich)[1/6] At the beginning of this year I set out with a goal to restore FULL <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PocketPC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PocketPC</a> compatibility on a current <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a> 10 <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PC</a>.We outlined how to both establish a connection AND Sync here… <a href="https://mas.to/@Judeau/112678025590638375" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://mas.to/@Judeau/112678025590638375</a>We looked at different keyboards and how to transfer Word files while preserving formatting here… <a href="https://mas.to/@Judeau/112689361744308651" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://mas.to/@Judeau/112689361744308651</a>The last piece of the puzzle was restoring wireless <a href="https://mas.to/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> connectivity. Spoiler alert: I got it!<a href="https://mas.to/tags/PDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PDA</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/WindowsCE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WindowsCE</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/RetroComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RetroComputing</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Handheld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Handheld</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/WindowsMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WindowsMobile</a>

Judeau (EatTheRich)<a href="https://urusai.social/@nazokiyoubinbou" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@nazokiyoubinbou</a> I am currently transferring files between my <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PocketPC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PocketPC</a> and an old laptop running <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a> XP that has <a href="https://mas.to/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> built in.I can get everything else with my Pocket PC working on a modern Win 10 setup.So I really want to get IrDA working on it as well. It's the last piece of the puzzle.I'm trying to get full Pocket PC functionality on a modern PC.I do not yet have a USB IrDA dongle. That's kind of what I am trying to figure out. One that will work with Windows 10 or 11.

Judeau (EatTheRich)Lately I have been playing around with <a href="https://mas.to/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> due to my current <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PocketPC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PocketPC</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Palm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Palm</a> and <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PDA</a> obsession.It's so cool doing wireless file transfers between devices. It's like pre-Bluetooth.Is there ANY way to get IrDA working on a current <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a> 10 or 11 PC with a USB IrDA dongel?I have heard conflicting info on this. I want to say the answer is no but then projects like Irdroid muddy the waters for me.<a href="https://mas.to/tags/WindowsMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WindowsMobile</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/WindowsCE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WindowsCE</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/RetroComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RetroComputing</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/RetroTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RetroTech</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PC</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/AskFedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AskFedi</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/AskMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AskMastodon</a>

radioscout<a href="https://social.bund.de/@strahlenschutz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@strahlenschutz</a> Warum sollte das nicht funktionieren? <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a> gibt es schon lange und in Glasfaserleitungen werden Daten mit optischer Strahlung übertragen. Wurde nicht erst kürzlich ein <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Katzenvideo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Katzenvideo</a> mit einem <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LASER" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LASER</a> vom einem Satelliten zur Erde gesendet? Optische <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Richtfunktechnik" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Richtfunktechnik</a> gibt es überall zu kaufen und <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Lichtsprechger%C3%A4te" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Lichtsprechgeräte</a> gibt es seit sehr vielen Jahrzehnten (z. B. Bells Photophone oder die militärisch genutzten Geräte).

MrJoshuaI love browsing though marketplace when I go on holiday! This is today’s purchase: A Toshiba Tecra 500CDT from the 90’s, running Windows 98. 🥰 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/RetroComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RetroComputing</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Windows98" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows98</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://chaos.social/@manawyrm" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@manawyrm</a> Someone should really do this as a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Joke" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Joke</a> thing...Q: Do they aso have <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/TechFighterMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TechFighterMobile</a>? Like that <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Java" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Java</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/J2ME" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#J2ME</a> version of <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/TechFighterTurbo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TechFighterTurbo</a> but with <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Versus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Versus</a> mode via <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IrDA</a>? <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkADWm8A6F0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkADWm8A6F0</a>

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