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I read it.
And my opinion is: Nobody can be proud about those stupid reasons.
We have a lot of people in Germany who tells any time: "I'm proud to be a German!"
That's absolutely silly / stupid.
They didn't do anything to be born in Germany, it was just a coincidence.
And the same is it with the colour of our skin.
We are all equal with the same rights and the same responsibilities.
Nothing else ...
@Harald being born black in anti-black America *and still being alive to be proud of it* despite all efforts to the contrary of the hostile country of birth is indeed an achievement, even it is one you cannot understand or relate to, as you were born German in pro-German Germany and deserve no pride in your existence.
@Harald sorry, to clarify, I didn't intend to make my response sound like "your existence is worthless". I agree with part of your sentiment. But, as you value pride in achievement, I must point out surviving in a hostile environment as black people do in America is an achievement worth pride, in a way that "being german" or "having Norse ancestors" is not.
@wouldinotcallmyselfahumanbeing
That's what I meant. Everyone can be proud of the good they have accomplished ...
@Harald
Eh, aside from what others have said lower down the thread which I agree with, I used to think like this, but then if your parents or friends do something hard, won't you be proud of them? You didn't do it but you can still be proud of their achievement despite contributing nothing. So I think that maybe pride in your tribe, be it nationality, football team, whatever is just an extension of that. It depends on the "achievement" though.
@econads @Harald @integerpoet --
Memes are a sort of shorthand to make a point. The memes are very short and usually only have a very simply message. Memes are shallow. No depth, no nuance.
This is why memes are so awesome. It is a modern day Rorschach inkblot test where people will project their psychology and politics onto, whether those things are in the meme or not.
So, to quote Megan Thee Stallion, “a hit dog gon' holler. That's it. Whoever feel it, feel it”
(Obviously because it's stupid to hold you responsible, but many people really do believe it's not a totally stupid idea.)
That is "pride" in the sense of security and agency. Someone proud of their heritage feels that they are part of and caretakers of their heritage. That they have the power to keep this language, or clothing, or traditional meal, alive. They didn't earn it, but they have it, and it's a relief to have.
It's a different definition than the "pride" of individual accomplishment. Nobody feels like they singlehandedly created their entire heritage from scratch and deserve all credit for it. The point is that you didn't because it's not in-herited, if it's just you.
So... that's how someone can be proud to be something, without feeling like they earned it through individual accomplishment. It might be foolish to feel that way, but... that's what's going on, I think.
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